Outdoor Arrows for Shooting 30+

Her coach suggested some outdoor arrows. That means breaking free from our standard aluminum arrow.  Indoor arrows can have a wider tube (“shaft”) and for recurve use feather fletchings vs plastic vanes.  This could mean soliciting lots of opinions and getting advice from different range staffers or messaging with Lancaster Archery.  Instead I took a recommendation from the excellent Easton Archery Podcast and decided to focus on the Carbon One. Her coach agreed, but now more questions. Arrows aren’t like picking a soccer ball, you could select the Adidas Tango and then the next choice is color and size.  With arrows, the dimensions of choice include size, shaft weight, spine @28″ span, length, fletchings, and point weight.  She is not ready for a clicker (which assists in the shot sequence and will alter the arrow length), so we don’t know how long the arrows should be nor the shaft weight.  These will be the first two questions a tech will ask you.  Her coach let her try some different sizes Of Carbon Ones, but they were mostly cut to work with clickers. When she shot these short arrows, her coach said they were “porpoising”, which means wavering up and down. That means longer arrows are required.

It is hard to avoid the complexity of the Easton Arrow Selection Chart.  Despite a lot of work to make the chart user friendly, you have to know a lot about you, your bow, and your setup.  This is a moving target for a young archer.

The Easton Selection Chart

Her coach suggested getting a couple of weights and testing them out.  We have three each of 1000 and 1150 with the recommended tip.  The Easton tip is 70, 80, or 90 points, which is a unit of measure for weight.  The tip breaks off at various places to change the weight.

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They are attached with hot melt which is a glue that is applied with heat versus a cement glue.  The plastic vanes are attached with a slight offset.


The only thing in common with the aluminum arrow is the Easton G Nock (no pin).

These thinner arrows shoot faster (they stick into the bale further) and shoot farther (her misses were further down the range).  This sounds complicated, and we are at the novice stage.  I suspect this is why there is a lot of “follow the leader” in arrow selection or “buying from the top of the list” – if you notice that Brady Ellison uses the Easton X10 (their high price arrow), and you purchase it, you don’t leave room for too many excuses with your equipment.

 

From the Archives

 These are from her first day shooting at the original No Limits.  She is wearing her Wonder Woman “Girl Power” shirt.


Probably trip two to No Limits.


Trying out practice at Bear Creek.  Confusing times with those early days of JOAD.


A Saturday in April 2014 at Bear Creek

Hot Enough for Outdoor Shooting in March

We returned to Bear Creek Lake park for our outdoor range.  She began by shooting at 30m.

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It was hot and dry out there.  Because the USAT Qualifiers are beginning soon, we needed to get a handle on how well she could shoot at 60m.  The USATs only have the Cadet and Junior divisions.  Cadets shoot at 60m and Juniors shoot at 70m.

We moved up to the 40m target and had to adjust her sight, but even with the sight at it’s limits, she wasn’t able to use it to aim at the target, she had to use it to aim at the trees way behind the target.

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The angle of her bow means she is shooting in an arc to reach 40m.  The sight is also practically useless for this distance.  I think she would have to increase the draw weight of her limbs to shoot 40m with less arc and that would probably be another increase to get to 60m.  With this information, it doesn’t look like we would be getting much out of the USAT Qualifiers this year and will consider Outdoor Nationals where she can shoot at 30m.

 

Indoor Nationals and JOAD Nationals

Her coach thought it would be a good idea for her to shoot at the Indoor Nationals.  This isn’t a JOAD or USAT event.  Even this isn’t quite true – it’s two events – a JOAD National Shoot combined with a second event, the Indoor Nationals.   The Indoor Nationals are also known as the National Championships.  Why plural?  Because it is one event held in many locations on different dates.  Only slightly confused so far?

At the Indoor Nationals, these are the Divisions and Classes

  • Recurve – Men, Women, Master, Master 60+, Master 70+, Junior, Cadet, Cub, Bowman
  • Compound – Men, Women, Master, Master 60+, Master 70+, Junior, Cadet, Cub, Bowman
  • Barebow – Men, Women, Master 50-70, Junior, Cadet, Cub, Bowman
  • Para W1 – Men/Women combined *
  • Para Recurve Open – Men, Women *
  • Para Compound Open– Men, Women *
  • VI – Men/Women combined *
  • Longbow – Men, Women
  • Traditional Recurve – Men, Women
  • Crossbow – Men, Women
  • Compound Fingers – Master 50-70

*Para archers must have a National Classification to participate in a Para division.

With this many divisions, it makes me think the Indoor Nationals must share a past with the NFAA.  Indeed, if you search the internet, you can find that the Indoor Nationals are part of the NFAA; however, the NFAA site is stingy with information and I don’t know too much more.

This year, Indoor Nationals could be found at these locations.

  • Newberry, FL – February 17-19, 2017
  • Albuquerque, NM – February 17-19, 2017
  • Fiskdale, MA – February 24-26, 2017
  • Sacramento, CA – February 24 – 26, 2017
  • Snelville, GA – February 24 – 26, 2017
  • Mason, MI – February 24 – 26, 2017
  • Lancaster, PA – February 24 – 26, 2017
  • Mankato, MN – March 3 – 5, 2017
  • College Station, TX – March 3 – 5, 2017
  • Chula Vista, CA – March 3 – 5, 2017
  • Salt Lake City, UT – March 10 – 12, 2017
  • Harrisonburg, VA – March 10 – 12, 2017
  • Hamilton, OH – March 10 – 12, 2017

We chose Salt Lake City.  You can only shoot at Indoor Nationals in one event.  You can’t show up a few weeks later and hope to improve your score.  We also chose to fly.

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Here’s the format for Indoor Nationals:

  • Recurve/Barebow Bow – Two rounds of 60 arrows each (120 total) at a 40 cm target face from 18 meters with outer ten-ring scoring.
  • Compound Bow – Two rounds of 60 arrows each (120 total) at a 40 cm target face from 18 meters with inner ten-ring scoring

The JOAD Nationals looks more familiar to USA Archery.

These are the divisions and classes for JOAD Nationals.

  • Recurve Men and Women – Junior, Cadet, Cub, Bowman
  • Compound Men and Women – Junior, Cadet, Cub, Bowman
  • Barebow Men and Women – Junior, Cadet, Cub, Bowman

The locations for JOAD Nationals are the same as Indoor Nationals since it is a combined event.

Here’s the format for JOAD Nationals:

  • Recurve/Barebow – One round of 60 arrows; 18 meters
    • Juniors and Cadets – 40 cm target face (choice of single-spot or triangle 3-spot face) from 18 meters – must use choice for entire tournament); outer 10 ring scoring
    • Cubs and Bowman – 60 cm target face; outer 10 ring scoring
  • Compound Bow – One round of 60 arrows; 18 meters
    • All Classes – 40 cm target face (choice of single-spot or triangle 3-spot face) from 18 meters – must use choice for entire tournament); inner 10 ring scoring

A skillful reader may have caught something.  This novice archery parent did not notice. Without spoiling too much, I’ll call it out here. The NFAA Indoor Nationals shoot on 40 cm targets for every shooter. JOAD Nationals uses the 60 cm target for her age group.

The Salt Lake City version of Indoor Nationals is held at the Easton Archery Center.  This place is probably the nicest archery facility we will see.

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The indoor range can shoot an Olympic 70m distance when used in the vertical direction.  As a horizontal range, it can accommodate many archers shooting at 18m.

Many of her regional competitors were here.  For JOAD Nationals, she shot fairly well.  Since switching to her new bow, she has developed some bad habits with her shot sequence.  This is usually a continuous and brief motion through her anchor and a quick release.  I suspect she’s still working on mastering the poundage of the new draw weight; but, this style doesn’t leave a lot of room for fine tuning her shot.  On the JOAD National day, she was at the first bale, so I could catch some good photos of her.

She met some girls from Washington and Hawaii too.

On to the Indoor Nationals and the 40cm target for the next two days.  The target through her off and she did not shoot well at all on day one.  I think she was hovering around four points an arrow.  We tried to shake it off at the mid way point; but, it was definitely her all day albatross.

We took in some sights in Salt Lake City and got a really nice dinosaur bones skirt courtesy of Hot Topic.

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The third day in Salt Lake and the second day of Indoor Nationals was better, but the combined scoring made it hard for her to make a big change.

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She completed her first national tournament and that is a good accomplishment by itself.  We said goodbye to SLC and the Easton Archery Center

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Second (or First?) Rotational

After her own switch to the left, the younger one took part in her second tournament, but it could almost be considered her first since she is doing everything new.

They packed the young kids into one side of the range.  It was interesting to see them try to stay in their shooter’s box.  I suspect many of them shoot with a lot of space on the line at practice.  With her riser, new limbs, and stabilizer, she had a bigger presence compared to the compound shooters their little bows.

She doubled her score from the first tournament and took home first place and a new Hoyt cap.